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Post by Horseguts on Aug 19, 2015 11:43:30 GMT -6
What are your thoughts on ads going on jerseys? Here would be the future Flames jersey.   |
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Post by Dr.Sluttager on Aug 19, 2015 12:00:10 GMT -6
What are your thoughts on ads going on jerseys? Here would be the future Flames jersey. I like what you have done here sir.  Ads on the jerseys have the potential to look very, very stupid and ugly. It's out of control in Europe but I guess the NHL is finally saying we need more money to pay for the Coyotes and other teams losing money.  |
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Post by Horseguts on Aug 19, 2015 13:00:49 GMT -6
What are your thoughts on ads going on jerseys? Here would be the future Flames jersey. I like what you have done here sir. Ads on the jerseys have the potential to look very, very stupid and ugly. It's out of control in Europe but I guess the NHL is finally saying we need more money to pay for the Coyotes and other teams losing money. If they want extra money, get rid of a few USA teams and it should be fine. Those Euro jerseys look like shit |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 19, 2015 16:10:18 GMT -6
If they want extra money, get rid of a few USA teams and it should be fine. Those Euro jerseys look like shit Agreed on both fronts. Or at least move them up north to Seattle or Wisconsin or something |
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Post by DidTheDougie on Aug 20, 2015 6:47:55 GMT -6
If they want extra money, get rid of a few USA teams and it should be fine. Those Euro jerseys look like shit Agreed on both fronts. Or at least move them up north to Seattle or Wisconsin or something I was wondering how long it would be before someone created this thread. jersey ads are like wearing an abortion. The ONLY ad I find tolerable and unavoidable is the company that makes the damn sweater. Other than them, corporate america can fuck off and stay away from my jerseys. The NHL doesnt need the marginal increase in capital/profit.(comparatively to the revenue of the league) Halloween might be an exception, but only if you are sporting something like this.  |
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Post by RamR on Aug 20, 2015 10:11:50 GMT -6
Agreed on both fronts. Or at least move them up north to Seattle or Wisconsin or something I was wondering how long it would be before someone created this thread. jersey ads are like wearing an abortion. The ONLY ad I find tolerable and unavoidable is the company that makes the damn sweater. Other than them, corporate america can fuck off and stay away from my jerseys. The NHL doesnt need the marginal increase in capital/profit.(comparatively to the revenue of the league) Halloween might be an exception, but only if you are sporting something like this. Love the Kane Jersey |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 20, 2015 11:33:13 GMT -6
Agreed on both fronts. Or at least move them up north to Seattle or Wisconsin or something I was wondering how long it would be before someone created this thread. jersey ads are like wearing an abortion. The ONLY ad I find tolerable and unavoidable is the company that makes the damn sweater. Other than them, corporate america can fuck off and stay away from my jerseys. The NHL doesnt need the marginal increase in capital/profit.(comparatively to the revenue of the league) Halloween might be an exception, but only if you are sporting something like this. While I agree with you on many levels, I could deal with the small patch for sponsors like they use in the ahl. Anything beyond that can kiss my ass. |
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Post by DidTheDougie on Aug 20, 2015 12:58:14 GMT -6
I was wondering how long it would be before someone created this thread. jersey ads are like wearing an abortion. The ONLY ad I find tolerable and unavoidable is the company that makes the damn sweater. Other than them, corporate america can fuck off and stay away from my jerseys. The NHL doesnt need the marginal increase in capital/profit.(comparatively to the revenue of the league) Halloween might be an exception, but only if you are sporting something like this. While I agree with you on many levels, I could deal with the small patch for sponsors like they use in the ahl. Anything beyond that can kiss my ass. Its a fine line though. First it will be one patch. Then two. Then they will decide the patches need to be symmetrical, and before long the jerseys have been slowly but surely bastardized beyond recognition. Sure one patch may not really be that noticeable, but will they really stop there? I seriously doubt it. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 20, 2015 13:51:27 GMT -6
While I agree with you on many levels, I could deal with the small patch for sponsors like they use in the ahl. Anything beyond that can kiss my ass. Its a fine line though. First it will be one patch. Then two. Then they will decide the patches need to be symmetrical, and before long the jerseys have been slowly but surely bastardized beyond recognition. Sure one patch may not really be that noticeable, but will they really stop there? I seriously doubt it. I doubt it either but what would you rather have? A slow introduction or a quick dose of ads? I'd rather it be slow and have people give time to propose their thoughts on the matter. If they go full ads, they have already invested hundreds of millions of dollars. . Not so much testing out a patch. They can back out of a patch.. not so much with full blown ad jerseys. And ads are going to happen unfortunately. |
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Post by DidTheDougie on Aug 20, 2015 13:55:03 GMT -6
Its a fine line though. First it will be one patch. Then two. Then they will decide the patches need to be symmetrical, and before long the jerseys have been slowly but surely bastardized beyond recognition. Sure one patch may not really be that noticeable, but will they really stop there? I seriously doubt it. I doubt it either but what would you rather have? A slow introduction or a quick dose of ads? I'd rather it be slow and have people give time to propose their thoughts on the matter. If they go full ads, they have already invested hundreds of millions of dollars. . Not so much testing out a patch. They can back out of a patch.. not so much with full blown ad jerseys. And ads are going to happen unfortunately. I see your point. If I had to choose, I would say no to ads altogether. Shame the NHL thinks this is something the sport needs. Guess I better buy a couple more Jerseys before they start selling the craptacular versions |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 20, 2015 14:21:21 GMT -6
I doubt it either but what would you rather have? A slow introduction or a quick dose of ads? I'd rather it be slow and have people give time to propose their thoughts on the matter. If they go full ads, they have already invested hundreds of millions of dollars. . Not so much testing out a patch. They can back out of a patch.. not so much with full blown ad jerseys. And ads are going to happen unfortunately. I see your point. If I had to choose, I would say no to ads altogether. Shame the NHL thinks this is something the sport needs. Guess I better buy a couple more Jerseys before they start selling the craptacular versions You think Adidas is going to allow other corporate sponsors on their own personal products for public sale? Cause I don't at all. I think jerseys for us will remain the same. My griffins jersey I bought doesn't have corporate logos on them and I expect the nhl and Adidas to follow suit. |
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Post by DidTheDougie on Aug 20, 2015 14:23:04 GMT -6
I see your point. If I had to choose, I would say no to ads altogether. Shame the NHL thinks this is something the sport needs. Guess I better buy a couple more Jerseys before they start selling the craptacular versions You think Adidas is going to allow other corporate sponsors on their own personal products for public sale? Cause I don't at all. I think jerseys for us will remain the same. My griffins jersey I bought doesn't have corporate logos on them and I expect the nhl and Adidas to follow suit. Tough call. Some fans want to have game jerseys. I think both options will be available. If other companies are kicking cash to Adidas, i doubt they say know. Free revenue string. |
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Post by Dangles13 on Aug 20, 2015 14:30:46 GMT -6
I see your point. If I had to choose, I would say no to ads altogether. Shame the NHL thinks this is something the sport needs. Guess I better buy a couple more Jerseys before they start selling the craptacular versions You think Adidas is going to allow other corporate sponsors on their own personal products for public sale? Cause I don't at all. I think jerseys for us will remain the same. My griffins jersey I bought doesn't have corporate logos on them and I expect the nhl and Adidas to follow suit. I just don't want to buy one on principle. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 20, 2015 14:56:05 GMT -6
You think Adidas is going to allow other corporate sponsors on their own personal products for public sale? Cause I don't at all. I think jerseys for us will remain the same. My griffins jersey I bought doesn't have corporate logos on them and I expect the nhl and Adidas to follow suit. Tough call. Some fans want to have game jerseys. I think both options will be available. If other companies are kicking cash to Adidas, i doubt they say know. Free revenue string. Ok. Think of it from Adidas PR vs. Adidas accounting. Yes, we have all this potential money coming in, but does Adidas want to have its products associated with McDonalds (multiple human rights violations, pollution issues, HGH legalities, etc) and other similar companies on its products for consumers to buy? I think not. Adidas PR and legal will want to keep it as simple and lucrative as possible. They are not responsible for who pays the most to the Wings, Bruins, Coyotes, etc.. to wear that patch. But they are directly responsible for the logos placed on their personal property that they sell to the general public. What would they say if Shell or Apple or Nike wanted to buy ad space to sell off the shelves? It wouldn't allow it based on the PR and legal departments. What if a rival company that is in corporate sponsor partnership with Shell via the NFL or Premier League? Will they put that logo on their merchandise on the shelves? The amount of time and money it would cost their PR, legal, HR, and R&D departments wouldn't be worth the patch on sales. Yes, there may be some companies like Little Caesars or Moulson that put their logos on the jerseys because their companies own the teams and can work directly with Adidas, but I am pretty sure it won't be something we see for a decade or two on the shelves. And even then, the backlash of the East Coast media, Original Six team fanbases, and purists would cause enough backlash to take the idea of selling team jerseys with full swathes of ads on them off the shelves. I've read a FUCK TON on this and talked to a number of my buddies who work for the NHL, NHL teams, media, and corporate sponsors. The patch is the first step. And its a testing ground. I don't have printed evidence to back me up, but I do have 2 1/2 dozen contacts from my time in the hockey community to know that its not going to happen in a doomsday scenario. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 20, 2015 15:03:55 GMT -6
You think Adidas is going to allow other corporate sponsors on their own personal products for public sale? Cause I don't at all. I think jerseys for us will remain the same. My griffins jersey I bought doesn't have corporate logos on them and I expect the nhl and Adidas to follow suit. I just don't want to buy one on principle. And I agree on you with that. But will you stop buying Oilers hats, sweaters, license plate trims, etc.. that don't have the corporate logos on them? Because I see that merchandise taking a jump up in popularity IF the shelf jerseys mimic the on-ice ads, which I don't think will happen. Adidas, CCM, Reebok, NHL, NHLPA, etc.. know that this would cause backlash. These guys have Masters and PHDs in business.. lawyers and focus groups, R&D, PR departments, and their own employees who love the NHL more than the company signing their paychecks to know ALL THE POSSIBLE variables going into this. The NHL sees money, the NHLPA sees potentially bigger contracts, and the ad companies see exposure. But they all realize that they don't want to pull a Donald Trump and ruin a product by blatantly throwing their logos across it. The reason why European leagues and minor leagues get away with what they do is because of two things: Minor Leagues: Its the minors, no one is really paying attention and realize that these second rate clubs need a source of income to pay for the arenas, the players, the equipment, the front office, etc.. they aren't owned by the same type of people that own NHL teams. Europe: Europe is a land full of people who have come to accept the way things are. America and Canada are not Europe in terms of pacificity. The fans will outrage and boycott over stupid ideas. Remember the long sleeve pants of 82-83 (c?). Remember the puck trail on Fox? I do. And I remember the league folding to the demands of the consumer immediately. They are going to take a chance with this and do it right, by doing it slowly and listening. They gave the OT/Shootout ten years to see how people felt and are now bowing to public demand for more games to be decided in OT rather than the SO. People overreact too soon on this. We got time before the World Cup of Hockey. And we have like two months of leaks before that happens to see how the jerseys will look. And then we can start to judge how the league will react to critism to this. For me: I can and will find my jerseys without ads. The NHL won't stop selling them without. And I don't think they'll come with a premium either. |
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