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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Sept 3, 2015 12:20:18 GMT -6
No, Milbury is the new GM. With assistant GMs Pierre McGuire and Roenick, so that we can make NBCSN watchable again. But a new GM wont happen, Sweeney is too good at saying yes to whatever Neely wants to get fired. Neely is really the GM since he has the final say on anything hockey related. That makes Sweeney a glorified puppet. View AttachmentThat bad, eh? Yeah, Holland doesn't seem so bad.
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Post by DidTheDougie on Sept 3, 2015 12:48:26 GMT -6
With assistant GMs Pierre McGuire and Roenick, so that we can make NBCSN watchable again. But a new GM wont happen, Sweeney is too good at saying yes to whatever Neely wants to get fired. Neely is really the GM since he has the final say on anything hockey related. That makes Sweeney a glorified puppet. That bad, eh? Yeah, Holland doesn't seem so bad. He may not trade that much, but then again you dont have to if your roster is good in the first place.
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Sept 3, 2015 12:57:39 GMT -6
That bad, eh? Yeah, Holland doesn't seem so bad. He may not trade that much, but then again you dont have to if your roster is good in the first place. Problem is our roster hasn't been considered "OEL" for about 5 seasons, only "good" and "good" does not win you championships unless you get super lucky ala the 2006 Hurricanes.
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Post by DidTheDougie on Sept 3, 2015 13:00:26 GMT -6
He may not trade that much, but then again you dont have to if your roster is good in the first place. Problem is our roster hasn't been considered "OEL" for about 5 seasons, only "good" and "good" does not win you championships unless you get super lucky ala the 2006 Hurricanes. True, but its nice to be consistently in the playoffs. Spoiled for over 2 decades of post season. Good is better than 'iffy'. So if the wings fail to make the playoffs will blashill be the scapegoat and get the boot?
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Sept 3, 2015 13:41:35 GMT -6
Problem is our roster hasn't been considered "OEL" for about 5 seasons, only "good" and "good" does not win you championships unless you get super lucky ala the 2006 Hurricanes. True, but its nice to be consistently in the playoffs. Spoiled for over 2 decades of post season. Good is better than 'iffy'. So if the wings fail to make the playoffs will blashill be the scapegoat and get the boot? I don't think so. As in, we aren't missing the playoffs. Datsyuk is due back in November, which means he's going to miss about 10-15 games, that's 10-15 games he's better rested. And that guy last year, despite injuries, was amazing. If we miss the playoffs, Shooter, Feds, and myself are jumping off the GM building in Detroit.
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Post by DidTheDougie on Sept 3, 2015 13:48:33 GMT -6
True, but its nice to be consistently in the playoffs. Spoiled for over 2 decades of post season. Good is better than 'iffy'. So if the wings fail to make the playoffs will blashill be the scapegoat and get the boot? I don't think so. As in, we aren't missing the playoffs. Datsyuk is due back in November, which means he's going to miss about 10-15 games, that's 10-15 games he's better rested. And that guy last year, despite injuries, was amazing. If we miss the playoffs, Shooter, Feds, and myself are jumping off the GM building in Detroit. It was more of a 'what if' scenario. Detroit is poised to return to the post season again. I agree with you, Dats was crazy good last year when he was healthy. I hope the 10-15 games at the beginning of the season is all he misses. That team is just exponentially better with him around. But you never know who the injury bug will victimize. Columbus saw it last year. So did boston. Imagine if Dats, Z, tatar and Kronwall all got bit by the injury bug and missed significant time? *knocks on wood* Dont want to jinx anything. I was more saying the first coach that misses the playoffs with detroit now might face quite a bit of scrutiny since Wings' fans are so spoiled with post season play.
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Sept 3, 2015 13:53:54 GMT -6
I don't think so. As in, we aren't missing the playoffs. Datsyuk is due back in November, which means he's going to miss about 10-15 games, that's 10-15 games he's better rested. And that guy last year, despite injuries, was amazing. If we miss the playoffs, Shooter, Feds, and myself are jumping off the GM building in Detroit. It was more of a 'what if' scenario. Detroit is poised to return to the post season again. I agree with you, Dats was crazy good last year when he was healthy. I hope the 10-15 games at the beginning of the season is all he misses. That team is just exponentially better with him around. But you never know who the injury bug will victimize. Columbus saw it last year. So did boston. Imagine if Dats, Z, tatar and Kronwall all got bit by the injury bug and missed significant time? *knocks on wood* Dont want to jinx anything. I was more saying the first coach that misses the playoffs with detroit now might face quite a bit of scrutiny since Wings' fans are so spoiled with post season play. I think Blashill would be kept. Holland realizes that we are in a transition phase with the "oldguard" being either retired or getting close to it (Franzen, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Holmstrom, Rafalski, Zetterberg) and our new guard is now just getting ready to take that next step (Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Larkin, Mantha, Sproul, Marchenko, Mrazek, Oullette) I think if anything, he'd be held under much higher scrutiny next season if we missed it then. Someone of Blashill's skill set and knowing his team, but just now joining the elite coaching ranks of the NHL. Holland is a very patient man, so I would expect the only thing to happen is our team gets some much needed extra rest this off season if we miss the playoffs, and the best pick we've had since the mid 80s.
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Post by DidTheDougie on Sept 3, 2015 14:01:20 GMT -6
It was more of a 'what if' scenario. Detroit is poised to return to the post season again. I agree with you, Dats was crazy good last year when he was healthy. I hope the 10-15 games at the beginning of the season is all he misses. That team is just exponentially better with him around. But you never know who the injury bug will victimize. Columbus saw it last year. So did boston. Imagine if Dats, Z, tatar and Kronwall all got bit by the injury bug and missed significant time? *knocks on wood* Dont want to jinx anything. I was more saying the first coach that misses the playoffs with detroit now might face quite a bit of scrutiny since Wings' fans are so spoiled with post season play. I think Blashill would be kept. Holland realizes that we are in a transition phase with the "oldguard" being either retired or getting close to it (Franzen, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Holmstrom, Rafalski, Zetterberg) and our new guard is now just getting ready to take that next step (Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Larkin, Mantha, Sproul, Marchenko, Mrazek, Oullette) I think if anything, he'd be held under much higher scrutiny next season if we missed it then. Someone of Blashill's skill set and knowing his team, but just now joining the elite coaching ranks of the NHL. Holland is a very patient man, so I would expect the only thing to happen is our team gets some much needed extra rest this off season if we miss the playoffs, and the best pick we've had since the mid 80s. Yeah, if detroit picked in the top 10 I would be concerned about them molding the next 50 goal scorer or getting the next Lidstrom. They know how to develop talent, and with a top 10 or top 5 prospect, its just scary to think about what that kid will become.
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Sept 3, 2015 14:02:59 GMT -6
I think Blashill would be kept. Holland realizes that we are in a transition phase with the "oldguard" being either retired or getting close to it (Franzen, Lidstrom, Datsyuk, Holmstrom, Rafalski, Zetterberg) and our new guard is now just getting ready to take that next step (Nyquist, Tatar, Sheahan, Larkin, Mantha, Sproul, Marchenko, Mrazek, Oullette) I think if anything, he'd be held under much higher scrutiny next season if we missed it then. Someone of Blashill's skill set and knowing his team, but just now joining the elite coaching ranks of the NHL. Holland is a very patient man, so I would expect the only thing to happen is our team gets some much needed extra rest this off season if we miss the playoffs, and the best pick we've had since the mid 80s. Yeah, if detroit picked in the top 10 I would be concerned about them molding the next 50 goal scorer or getting the next Lidstrom. They know how to develop talent, and with a top 10 or top 5 prospect, its just scary to think about what that kid will become. Watch us win the first overall and we don't pick Matthews and our pick is someone outside the top 15 projected. He ends up being better than Yzerman.
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Post by DidTheDougie on Sept 3, 2015 14:15:05 GMT -6
Yeah, if detroit picked in the top 10 I would be concerned about them molding the next 50 goal scorer or getting the next Lidstrom. They know how to develop talent, and with a top 10 or top 5 prospect, its just scary to think about what that kid will become. Watch us win the first overall and we don't pick Matthews and our pick is someone outside the top 15 projected. He ends up being better than Yzerman. Wouldnt surprise me.
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Sept 3, 2015 14:17:24 GMT -6
Watch us win the first overall and we don't pick Matthews and our pick is someone outside the top 15 projected. He ends up being better than Yzerman. Wouldnt surprise me. ... I want this to happen.
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Post by DidTheDougie on Sept 3, 2015 14:21:20 GMT -6
... I want this to happen. You are in luck. If you miss the playoffs now, starting this year, the top 3 picks are lottery picks. Finish out of the playoffs and the worse you can do is a 1% shot at pick number 1, then 2.5% for pick number two (because one team is eliminated from the drawing) and then a 5% shot at pick number 3 (after the second team is eliminated from the drawing). Weird things can happen man.
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Sept 3, 2015 14:27:05 GMT -6
... I want this to happen. You are in luck. If you miss the playoffs now, starting this year, the top 3 picks are lottery picks. Finish out of the playoffs and the worse you can do is a 1% shot at pick number 1, then 2.5% for pick number two (because one team is eliminated from the drawing) and then a 5% shot at pick number 3 (after the second team is eliminated from the drawing). Weird things can happen man. Holland just needs to trade for the first rounder that turns into a top 3. And then we win the cup too. Tatar gets the Conn Smythe.
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Post by DidTheDougie on Sept 4, 2015 6:24:40 GMT -6
You are in luck. If you miss the playoffs now, starting this year, the top 3 picks are lottery picks. Finish out of the playoffs and the worse you can do is a 1% shot at pick number 1, then 2.5% for pick number two (because one team is eliminated from the drawing) and then a 5% shot at pick number 3 (after the second team is eliminated from the drawing). Weird things can happen man. Holland just needs to trade for the first rounder that turns into a top 3. And then we win the cup too. Tatar gets the Conn Smythe.
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Sept 4, 2015 8:41:24 GMT -6
Holland just needs to trade for the first rounder that turns into a top 3. And then we win the cup too. Tatar gets the Conn Smythe. You'll revel in the glorious pick that the Wings get.
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