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Post by Feds91Stammer on Aug 22, 2015 10:57:41 GMT -6
They are similar. Burns just has the physical edge and size and aggression that Green doesn't seem to use. To me Burns is way better than Green....... Green is half the player he used to be. Lets not forget the only defenseman to outscore Burns this year was Karlsson. Now with Martin as his parnter Burns has a real good chance at the Norris this season he finished 4th this past year. Green will outscore Burns this season. And have a better plus-minus. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 22, 2015 11:00:15 GMT -6
To me Burns is way better than Green....... Green is half the player he used to be. Lets not forget the only defenseman to outscore Burns this year was Karlsson. Now with Martin as his parnter Burns has a real good chance at the Norris this season he finished 4th this past year. Agree here, Green is very one dimensional, and his one dimension isn't really that amazing. People underrate Green's defensive ability. He's slightly above average in that respect. His offense was kind of buried as a third pairing this last year. I think with the lethal Wings' powerplay, we'll see a surge in Green's offense. |
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Post by smellmyfinger on Aug 22, 2015 11:02:26 GMT -6
Agree here, Green is very one dimensional, and his one dimension isn't really that amazing. Yeah but a good offense is the ONLY defence. Spoken like a true Oilers fan. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 22, 2015 11:03:24 GMT -6
Yeah but a good offense is the ONLY defence. Spoken like a true Oilers fan.  |
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Post by SJSharks39 on Aug 22, 2015 11:05:58 GMT -6
To me Burns is way better than Green....... Green is half the player he used to be. Lets not forget the only defenseman to outscore Burns this year was Karlsson. Now with Martin as his parnter Burns has a real good chance at the Norris this season he finished 4th this past year. Green will outscore Burns this season. And have a better plus-minus. SJSharks39 dislikes this post |
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Post by Dangles13 on Aug 22, 2015 11:06:50 GMT -6
Yeah but a good offense is the ONLY defence. Spoken like a true Oilers fan. You mean spoken like Tanner right? |
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Post by smellmyfinger on Aug 22, 2015 11:08:41 GMT -6
Agree here, Green is very one dimensional, and his one dimension isn't really that amazing. People underrate Green's defensive ability. He's slightly above average in that respect. His offense was kind of buried as a third pairing this last year. I think with the lethal Wings' powerplay, we'll see a surge in Green's offense. He managed 45 points last year while playing on the leagues number one PP last year (25.3%). ( I do realize Detroits was number two). 17 of Greens 45 points came on the PP, leaving 28 points. Burns had 60 points (24 PP) playing on the leagues 6th best PP. I would still take Burns. And +/- could be the worst stat the league keeps track of. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 22, 2015 11:08:52 GMT -6
Spoken like a true Oilers fan. You mean spoken like Tanner right? "Karlsson is the best defenseman of the last 30 years outside of Lidstrom." |
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Post by smellmyfinger on Aug 22, 2015 11:09:03 GMT -6
Spoken like a true Oilers fan. You mean spoken like Tanner right? Fair enough. |
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Post by smellmyfinger on Aug 22, 2015 11:12:05 GMT -6
You mean spoken like Tanner right? "Karlsson is the best defenseman of the last 30 years outside of Lidstrom." He seems to be backing away from that statement very quickly on Twitter. |
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Post by Dangles13 on Aug 22, 2015 11:12:16 GMT -6
You mean spoken like Tanner right? Fair enough. It's what I was going for. Making fun of Tanner's inability to see that no player is so good offensively that he doesn't have to play defence. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Aug 22, 2015 11:14:33 GMT -6
"Karlsson is the best defenseman of the last 30 years outside of Lidstrom." He seems to be backing away from that statement very quickly on Twitter. I've noticed. That guy is a twit. |
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Post by smellmyfinger on Aug 22, 2015 11:15:27 GMT -6
It's what I was going for. Making fun of Tanner's inability to see that no player is so good offensively that he doesn't have to play defence. So.... you're saying Tanner is wrong when he says Hanzal is a top 20 center in the league? Certainly he must be right about Karlsson being the best defenseman in the league and 2nd best only to Lidstrom since 1985. |
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Post by SJSharks39 on Aug 22, 2015 11:19:23 GMT -6
People underrate Green's defensive ability. He's slightly above average in that respect. His offense was kind of buried as a third pairing this last year. I think with the lethal Wings' powerplay, we'll see a surge in Green's offense. He managed 45 points last year while playing on the leagues number one PP last year (25.3%). ( I do realize Detroits was number two). 17 of Greens 45 points came on the PP, leaving 28 points. Burns had 60 points (24 PP) playing on the leagues 6th best PP. I would still take Burns. And +/- could be the worst stat the league keeps track of. Burns +/- was fucked off because of McJuggles too, his constant fucking juggling of the lineup. He had 5 different parnters last season. |
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Post by Dangles13 on Aug 22, 2015 11:24:14 GMT -6
It's what I was going for. Making fun of Tanner's inability to see that no player is so good offensively that he doesn't have to play defence. So.... you're saying Tanner is wrong when he says Hanzal is a top 20 center in the league? Certainly he must be right about Karlsson being the best defenseman in the league and 2nd best only to Lidstrom since 1985. Oh no that Hanzal is so hot right now. Man is he dumb. |
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