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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Feb 20, 2016 14:22:44 GMT -6
I usually take the Trade Deadline off of work but I might not be able to this year and that makes me sad. I've never found the deadline to be as exciting as other people find it. I've been pretty lucky that I can follow along while I'm at work at my computer, here's hoping for a funky deadline this year  My hope is that buffalo and Florida get better. I'd love to see Montreal and Toronto waste with Ottawa sticking to the fringes. We know Tampa will be good no matter what with Stamkos and Hedman. I just want the Atlantic to not become the central division, yknow? |
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Post by Dangles13 on Feb 20, 2016 14:32:30 GMT -6
Nuge would be nigh untouchable for me at this point. I'd keep him over Eberle and maybe even Hall. He's the Oilers only true all situations forward and until Connor and Leon show they can consistently handle top line duties Nuge has to stay. Nuge is OEL. He is the Zetterberg of your team. Captain material. But if someone offered me Zetterberg and Marchenko for Subban, I'd take it. Subban is a damn game changer. He'd be perfect for any team and make them double fold better. He might not be Lidstrom or Orr. But he is the best offensive dman outside of Karlsson. And that's saying a lot. He's a game changer but is it worth the risk of potentially stunting the growth of McDavid and Draisaitl by throwing them to the wolves? |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Feb 20, 2016 14:45:14 GMT -6
Nuge is OEL. He is the Zetterberg of your team. Captain material. But if someone offered me Zetterberg and Marchenko for Subban, I'd take it. Subban is a damn game changer. He'd be perfect for any team and make them double fold better. He might not be Lidstrom or Orr. But he is the best offensive dman outside of Karlsson. And that's saying a lot. He's a game changer but is it worth the risk of potentially stunting the growth of McDavid and Draisaitl by throwing them to the wolves? Playing Devil's advocate, I'd say that you guys are currently stunting the growth of everyone with your poor defense. Bringing in someone like Subban would help grow your defense and in return, help grow the confidence of the forwards like McDavid and Leon while overall improving the gamee of the Oilers. |
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Post by Dangles13 on Feb 20, 2016 14:48:04 GMT -6
He's a game changer but is it worth the risk of potentially stunting the growth of McDavid and Draisaitl by throwing them to the wolves? Playing Devil's advocate, I'd say that you guys are currently stunting the growth of everyone with your poor defense. Bringing in someone like Subban would help grow your defense and in return, help grow the confidence of the forwards like McDavid and Leon while overall improving the gamee of the Oilers. It just worries me having seen the Oilers throw player after player to the wolves and stunt their growth. I'd move a winger before I'd move a centre and I'd also trade a defenceman if the right one was coming back. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Feb 20, 2016 15:13:03 GMT -6
Playing Devil's advocate, I'd say that you guys are currently stunting the growth of everyone with your poor defense. Bringing in someone like Subban would help grow your defense and in return, help grow the confidence of the forwards like McDavid and Leon while overall improving the gamee of the Oilers. It just worries me having seen the Oilers throw player after player to the wolves and stunt their growth. I'd move a winger before I'd move a centre and I'd also trade a defenceman if the right one was coming back. I'd agree with theater development. If Nuge, hall, drai, yak, Nurse, Klefabs, etc were allowed to stay in minors until they were 22 to 23 I think you guys would be phenomenal. But as it sits, you could be worse off with your development. You're players are talented enough that it hasn't hurt them terribly. And you guys are weak on the wing. Outside of Hall you don't have a true winger that is a true top six. Draisaitl doesn't count as he's a natural center. I'd compare him to Zetterberg. But eberle isn't a top line winger long term. He's a middle six. So if you wanted to trade for a dman, you have to go center and lose Nuge or Drai. |
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Post by Dangles13 on Feb 20, 2016 15:34:44 GMT -6
It just worries me having seen the Oilers throw player after player to the wolves and stunt their growth. I'd move a winger before I'd move a centre and I'd also trade a defenceman if the right one was coming back. I'd agree with theater development. If Nuge, hall, drai, yak, Nurse, Klefabs, etc were allowed to stay in minors until they were 22 to 23 I think you guys would be phenomenal. But as it sits, you could be worse off with your development. You're players are talented enough that it hasn't hurt them terribly. And you guys are weak on the wing. Outside of Hall you don't have a true winger that is a true top six. Draisaitl doesn't count as he's a natural center. I'd compare him to Zetterberg. But eberle isn't a top line winger long term. He's a middle six. So if you wanted to trade for a dman, you have to go center and lose Nuge or Drai. True top six? What is that and why is Eberle not a true top six winger? |
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Post by Chet on Feb 20, 2016 16:15:10 GMT -6
I'd agree with theater development. If Nuge, hall, drai, yak, Nurse, Klefabs, etc were allowed to stay in minors until they were 22 to 23 I think you guys would be phenomenal. But as it sits, you could be worse off with your development. You're players are talented enough that it hasn't hurt them terribly. And you guys are weak on the wing. Outside of Hall you don't have a true winger that is a true top six. Draisaitl doesn't count as he's a natural center. I'd compare him to Zetterberg. But eberle isn't a top line winger long term. He's a middle six. So if you wanted to trade for a dman, you have to go center and lose Nuge or Drai. True top six? What is that and why is Eberle not a true top six winger? OFF WITH HIS HEAD |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Feb 22, 2016 7:00:47 GMT -6
I'd agree with theater development. If Nuge, hall, drai, yak, Nurse, Klefabs, etc were allowed to stay in minors until they were 22 to 23 I think you guys would be phenomenal. But as it sits, you could be worse off with your development. You're players are talented enough that it hasn't hurt them terribly. And you guys are weak on the wing. Outside of Hall you don't have a true winger that is a true top six. Draisaitl doesn't count as he's a natural center. I'd compare him to Zetterberg. But eberle isn't a top line winger long term. He's a middle six. So if you wanted to trade for a dman, you have to go center and lose Nuge or Drai. True top six? What is that and why is Eberle not a true top six winger? I just don't think that Ebs is top line material. I think of Nyquist in the same way. This is purely based on my personal opinion. I don't know what fancy stats say, so I may be truly wrong. Just have my eye test. |
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Post by Dangles13 on Feb 22, 2016 8:42:23 GMT -6
I was confused because top 6 usually dictates the top 2 lines, which I think Eberle absolutely is. He's a 25+ goal scorer with a weak defensive game plus he's passive but when he's on he's OEL at generating offence.
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Feb 23, 2016 7:05:43 GMT -6
I was confused because top 6 usually dictates the top 2 lines, which I think Eberle absolutely is. He's a 25+ goal scorer with a weak defensive game plus he's passive but when he's on he's OEL at generating offence. Oh yeah. Don't get me wrong, he can score. But his passive play is just keeping him off another level. |
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Post by Chet on Feb 24, 2016 10:42:54 GMT -6
So Eller is available. I wonder if we can do a Eller/Yakupov switch? Would Eller work well on the Oilers?
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Post by DidTheDougie on Feb 24, 2016 10:48:29 GMT -6
So Eller is available. I wonder if we can do a Eller/Yakupov switch? Would Eller work well on the Oilers? Not really sure you are gaining anything there. |
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Post by Dangles13 on Feb 24, 2016 10:58:31 GMT -6
So Eller is available. I wonder if we can do a Eller/Yakupov switch? Would Eller work well on the Oilers? I don't see the point in trading for a third line centre. |
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Post by Yzerman Is The Man on Feb 24, 2016 12:00:57 GMT -6
So Eller is available. I wonder if we can do a Eller/Yakupov switch? Would Eller work well on the Oilers? I don't see the point in trading for a third line centre. I agree with Dougie and Dangles here. Eller doesn't exactly drive the play. |
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Post by Chet on Feb 24, 2016 19:50:14 GMT -6
Excellent hockey talk boys!
Whats for dinner?
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